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0w20 vs 5w30 Oil Results - Accord 2.0T

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So I decided to do the testing on my own car and collect the data from oil lab testing.
Results attached bellow.
2000 miles on the 0w20
4000 miles on 5w30

This was done between November 15 through march 15. Still in the low morning temps, around 30-40F with daily highs averaging around 50F sometimes hitting 60-65F.

Mods: None except K tuner stage 2

Driving habits: Start up in eco mode (factory boost) and warm up, drive first 15 minutes in eco for warm up, 85% highway miles.

As you can see, firstly, 0w20 doesn't create a good enough seal in the cylinder, blow by is pretty bad, pushing fuel dilution to 1.8% in just 2000 miles. Imagine if I drove 4000 or even 10,000 miles like many recommend. Fuel dilution would have been pretty bad. This is on a practically brand new engine using honda's own oil. All the honda owners manual stans need to wake up.

Switched to my preferred oil 5w30 Valvoline. Mostly because I can get it for like 26$ for 5qts and I always run the high mileage version full synthetic. As you can see from the results, firstly there is nearly no fuel dilution. Biggest issue now is viscosity degradation. 100 degree cSt when the oil is new should be around 10.7 according to SAE tests and valvolines own documentation, yet over 4000 miles it fell down to 8.3. That is a 22% reduction in viscosity. Although oil rarely will reach 100C in the oil pan, it will exceed that in the turbo charger.

Over all, might switch to a higher strength 5w30 if I can find a steady supply of it under 30$ for 5qts in my area. But just based off this data, switching to a 5w30 oil is already MUCH better. Honda's 0w20 is obviously trash, doing pretty much nothing to really protect the engine, flash point is so low that its lower than what I would get with 0w16 on my toyota's, and the fuel dilution even on the k20 is a problem people keep denying yet I have evidence.

Either way, Just wanted to put that out there.
The data is all here, trolls be gone, I won't respond or participate in arguments of which oil is better or which brand or how none of this matters because engines are "so high tech and engineering is so good" etc. Engineering is always limited by the finance department, source, I am an engineer.


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both your attachments show the report saying nothing abnormal was found, everything was completely normal and that fuel dilution is not harming anything. not really sure how you concluded that the 5w30 is MUCH better. you may be an engineer but i am pretty sure the billions honda spends on R&D is going to outweigh anything you personally find. you also mention you have a ktuner mod, so how do we know the ktuner isn't what is causing these variations in viscosity or fuel dilution. you say trolls be gone but this entire posts seems like a troll. ill stick to the manual thx
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That is because the industry standard is 2% fuel dilution. But blackstone labs afaik under reports fuel dilution because of their methodology.

If you think fuel dilution isn't harming anything, ask everyone who had failed 1.5T's.

Honda recommends 5w30 in europe and in australia. So yeah, honda and you are full of **** :) Honda's R/D is limited by LAW and FINANCE. Not by quality and longevity.
you still modified your car, and are showing the oil wear data as if the same thing will apply to all non modified cars. why would honda suggest 0w20 over 5w30 then? i dont think theres any cost savings there. if 0w20 is going to damage the engine, then theyll pay a heavy price when they have to do recalls and face class action lawsuits. you seem overly confident that only you have the answer and nobody else, which should generally be your first clue that maybe you are not onto something. as far as i know, the oil choice is based on how the engine is designed. thinner oil is necessary when there are tighter tolerances and colder weather. even in a warm weather, the engine is still going to be cold when it starts up and you may still need that thinness. you still don't know how the engine will behave long term with the thicker oil. feel free to keep using it, maybe nothing happens. most people will just use what manufacturer recommends.
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