[StormX2]

Hello!

I have only ever purchased Honda's before and figured, why change that now.

First was a 98 Civic LX, then my current 2012 LX (my wife leases as 2018 Civic CVT) and I personally dislike my 2012 as it isnt very comfortable to me for long drive (same with my wifes Car).

I randomly decided to drive the 2.0T EX-L that was at a local dealership, it was a 2019 Model if I recall and I fell in love immediately. I doubt I will be baller enough to buy a brand new one when the time comes (never have) so will likely look for a relatively low mileage used car in the next 1 to 2 years.

Why Do I like this Car?
10 speed Automatic with Paddle shifters (and a turbo is always cool). This car gives me full control of which gear and rpm I drive in on the highway, clear and simple for me as I am constantly wishing I could have more access to 4th gear in my Current 2012 Civic. I get great gas mileage on the highway, but I know I could do better if I have full control. The nifty baby boost that it gives you is a clear advantage when trying getting up to speed from a stand still or merging onto a highway etc.
Of course the most important reason? Its really freaking comfortable to be in! They let me drive for about 45 min (my average drive to work) and I never felt better driving a car that wasn't a giant Van or SUV/truck etc. (Yah I'm 6'1" and Big Boy all around wink* wink*)

No, I will not think about the 6 Speed Manual, so don't bother. I'd go Manual for a weekend track car/drag car but this needs to be my daily driver that i will put 100 Miles per day on easily with mixed roads and traffic.

I am hoping to learn what issues, what problems, what things should I keep in mind and worry about, when it is time for me to buy someones Used 2.0T.

What are the REAL differences between the 3 trims?

Personally I don't care if its Leather or not, Moon roof or not. I care about Performance, reliability and Gas Mileage. When I want to, i want to be able to burn rubber, and when I need to, I want to be able to ease into a comfortable RPM range and mindless drive on the highway while I consume my Coffee and Breakfast from 711.

I am far from a Knowledgeable car guy, and I see many people seem to have the 19 inch rims that come with some of the models. I would like more info about this as I cannot and will not own a car that is horribly expensive to maintain.

Thanks in advance!

 

[EngTech1]

17" Rims are Very Strong and Hold Up for a Long Time , plus the set up is lighter by 16 lbs easily . .
Through the Mountains yesterday and Back 45 Mph to 80 Mph ~ Mostly 60 Mpg got back had 34.6 Mpg that's after the Tank had 280 Miles on it with
31.5 mpg , I added a splash of 8 Gallons before heading out - didn't Zero out . . so Pulled the Average Up from : 34.6 @ 487 miles from 31.5 @ 280 miles , Do the Math ~

 

[Fired00d]

First off welcome to the forum.

Regarding what trim level to purchase I think you've answered your own question when you mentioned the items that are of no interest to you ("Personally I don't care if its Leather or not, Moon roof or not."). The Honda website will be your best source for what each trim level has/doesn't have. Performance wise you will probably want the 2.0T motor over the 1.5T which you have stated is your preference.

This is a new generation of Accord's and with any new generation there have been issues (some have been reported on this forum) of which hopefully over time will become non existent (where is the hopefully optimistic emoji when you need it ). This is my second Honda... first was a '92 Accord I purchased for daughter when she first learned to drive (she actually learned to drive on it). It was a used vehicle purchase w/a little over a 100k miles on it... that car took her thru high school, and college... she put another 100+k on it and we sold it when she purchased her a newer car upon graduating. So for me the reliability we had w/that Honda was a deciding factor when I purchased my current car. My thought was if I maintain this car as we had done w/the previous Accord it should satisfy my reliability needs.

I have the 19" wheels on my car and love the look. You do have to be more careful w/these wheels as they are susceptible to curb rash. Being a larger wheel w/a lower profile tire there is little to no tire protecting the wheels that would be found w/a smaller wheel. If this is realized and you drive (park) with this in mind you'll save yourself a lot of aggravation and $$$.

Gas mileage in the non-hybrid models have been pretty much w/what Honda has posted for City/Highway/Combined driving which can be found on the website I referred to earlier in this post.

 

[Ghawkins]

Hello!

I have only ever purchased Honda's before and figured, why change that now.

First was a 98 Civic LX, then my current 2012 LX (my wife leases as 2018 Civic CVT) and I personally dislike my 2012 as it isnt very comfortable to me for long drive (same with my wifes Car).

I randomly decided to drive the 2.0T EX-L that was at a local dealership, it was a 2019 Model if I recall and I fell in love immediately. I doubt I will be baller enough to buy a brand new one when the time comes (never have) so will likely look for a relatively low mileage used car in the next 1 to 2 years.

Why Do I like this Car?
10 speed Automatic with Paddle shifters (and a turbo is always cool). This car gives me full control of which gear and rpm I drive in on the highway, clear and simple for me as I am constantly wishing I could have more access to 4th gear in my Current 2012 Civic. I get great gas mileage on the highway, but I know I could do better if I have full control. The nifty baby boost that it gives you is a clear advantage when trying getting up to speed from a stand still or merging onto a highway etc.
Of course the most important reason? Its really freaking comfortable to be in! They let me drive for about 45 min (my average drive to work) and I never felt better driving a car that wasn't a giant Van or SUV/truck etc. (Yah I'm 6'1" and Big Boy all around wink* wink*)

No, I will not think about the 6 Speed Manual, so don't bother. I'd go Manual for a weekend track car/drag car but this needs to be my daily driver that i will put 100 Miles per day on easily with mixed roads and traffic.

I am hoping to learn what issues, what problems, what things should I keep in mind and worry about, when it is time for me to buy someones Used 2.0T.

What are the REAL differences between the 3 trims?

The EX

Personally I don't care if its Leather or not, Moon roof or not. I care about Performance, reliability and Gas Mileage. When I want to, i want to be able to burn rubber, and when I need to, I want to be able to ease into a comfortable RPM range and mindless drive on the highway while I consume my Coffee and Breakfast from 711.

I am far from a Knowledgeable car guy, and I see many people seem to have the 19 inch rims that come with some of the models. I would like more info about this as I cannot and will not own a car that is horribly expensive to maintain.

Thanks in advance!

The EX and EX-L (leather) are additional luxury and convenience features over the LX with a choice of either the 1.5 or 2.0.
The Sport 1.5 is mostly chassis/wheel upgrade with the base luxury and convenience features from the LX. A manual transmission is available.
The Sport 2.0 has the larger engine and most of the luxury and convenience features from the EX. Transmission choices are 6 speed manual or 10 speed automatic. The automatic is faster and state of the art. Gets additional chassis upgrades.
The Touring gets all the above plus HUD, dynamic shocks, and additional luxury and convenience features.

Based on my experience (2.0 automatic) and info from the forums, the 1.5 should deliver around 35 mpg and the 2.0 about 32 mpg. The 1.5 is certainly adequate and the 2.0 is fast, especially when equipped with the automatic. Both would benefit with smaller/lighter wheels that improve fuel consumption, acceleration, braking, and ride.

 

[Stopsweatinme]

The EX and EX-L (leather) are additional luxury and convenience features over the LX with a choice of either the 1.5 or 2.0.
The Sport 1.5 is mostly chassis/wheel upgrade with the base luxury and convenience features from the LX. A manual transmission is available.
The Sport 2.0 has the larger engine and most of the luxury and convenience features from the EX. Transmission choices are 6 speed manual or 10 speed automatic. The automatic is faster and state of the art. Gets additional chassis upgrades.
The Touring gets all the above plus HUD, dynamic shocks, and additional luxury and convenience features.

Based on my experience (2.0 automatic) and info from the forums, the 1.5 should deliver around 35 mpg and the 2.0 about 32 mpg. The 1.5 is certainly adequate and the 2.0 is fast, especially when equipped with the automatic. Both would benefit with smaller/lighter wheels that improve fuel consumption, acceleration, braking, and ride.

 

[Stopsweatinme]

The 2.0t sport is tasteful and simple, but retains Honda Sensing, a sunroof and remote start. That was the best spot for me.

However, the Sport seems to drop some things and keeps the weight down. Put it in sport setting and it’s point and shoot. Great handling sedan, especially FWD. Sixth gear is awesome with all the torque. It’s like 4th in a six speed.

 

[StormX2]

Good info,

I will only bother with the 2.0T 10 Speed automatic. I am not interested in Manual for sure. Just noticed that it seems many people are selling the 19 inch rims and going down to the 17 Inchers. I am starting to think this would be the best idea for me as where i drive tends to have pothole issues and snow is common enough to cause me to hit said potholes regularly enough. I am not worried about curbs however, have never even once scraped a curb lol.

Has anyone have any issues with Buttons for Park/N/Reverse since it doesn't use a traditional column to shift?

When in standard Drive mode, you can still use the paddles to downshift/engine break?

Does the Car really not allow you to fully use First Gear when in Sport Manual + mode?

It seems like the Sport is the option for me, but looks like I will be stuck with having to trade/ sell the 19 inch rims as they seem like a money pit for me.

 

[gboybama]

I wish I hadn't spent the money on the Touring. My price range had me deciding between the 1.5 Touring or the 2.0 EX. I don't use or don't like several features I paid extra for. I never use the moonroof or wireless charger. I could have gotten used to the push button gear shifter. The supposed premium sound system is garbage. The bigger engine would have been a much better choice for me.

 

[StormX2]

I wish I hadn't spent the money on the Touring. My price range had me deciding between the 1.5 Touring or the 2.0 EX. I don't use or don't like several features I paid extra for. I never use the moonroof or wireless charger. I could have gotten used to the push button gear shifter. The supposed premium sound system is garbage. The bigger engine would have been a much better choice for me.

In all honesty, I am in this strictly for the 2.0T 10 Speed Automatic.
The ONLY thing about the touring I want is the rear Air Vents for my kids. That and it comes with the 17 inch rims standard, which i would absolutely prefer.

My Kid would use the wireless charger,but I mean, I have a USB Hub that conencts to the cig lighter, I am sure I can live with just that still ;p

Now people keep saying the sound system sucks.

Could it actually be worse than my 2012 Civic LX??? Cus its not great compared to the aftermarket system I once ran in my 98 Civic LX (Polk Audio db set with a 1000 watt Alpine) but it still sounds good to me.

 

[Fired00d]

In all honesty, I am in this strictly for the 2.0T 10 Speed Automatic.
The ONLY thing about the touring I want is the rear Air Vents for my kids. That and it comes with the 17 inch rims standard, which i would absolutely prefer.

My Kid would use the wireless charger,but I mean, I have a USB Hub that conencts to the cig lighter, I am sure I can live with just that still ;p

Now people keep saying the sound system sucks.

Could it actually be worse than my 2012 Civic LX??? Cus its not great compared to the aftermarket system I once ran in my 98 Civic LX (Polk Audio db set with a 1000 watt Alpine) but it still sounds good to me.

You may want to recheck the specs on the Touring model... they come standard with 19 inch wheels/rims.

 

[StormX2]

You may want to recheck the specs on the Touring model... they come standard with 19 inch wheels/rims.

Damn swore I read it otherwise.

 

[Fired00d]

Damn swore I read it otherwise.

My '18 came with 19" wheels/rims and I just checked the Honda website and they are showing the same for the '19' & '20 model year Touring's.

 

[StormX2]

guess it was the EX-L then

Anyone know how much it would cost me to downgrade to a standard 17 Inch rim setup? I dont wish to be very fancy and previously mentione dI dont think my Drive and the roads I take will treat me well financially by using the 19inch rims.

 

[Ghawkins]

guess it was the EX-L then

Anyone know how much it would cost me to downgrade to a standard 17 Inch rim setup? I dont wish to be very fancy and previously mentione dI dont think my Drive and the roads I take will treat me well financially by using the 19inch rims.

I have done this three times, the last time for my Accord Sport 2.0T. I went with lighter Enkei wheels and Pirelli Sport Plus a/s tires. Spent about $1500. You can expect better wheel protection, better ride, faster acceleration, and better fuel economy. Don’t expect to save enough fuel to pay for the new wheels/tires though. Consider saving the OEM wheels If you plan to trade your car in a few years. Car dealers don’t like late model cars with aftermarket wheels.

 

[StormX2]

I have done this three times, the last time for my Accord Sport 2.0T. I went with lighter Enkei wheels and Pirelli Sport Plus a/s tires. Spent about $1500. You can expect better wheel protection, better ride, faster acceleration, and better fuel economy. Don’t expect to save enough fuel to pay for the new wheels/tires though. Consider saving the OEM wheels If you plan to trade your car in a few years. Car dealers don’t like late model cars with aftermarket wheels.

Any issue with tire Pressure sensor and such using the other wheels?

I likely would try to sell the 19's though, I doubt I would bother saving them as I tend to keep my cars litterally forever.

The old 98 Civic LX is in my driveway with some sort of unknown electrical issue. I doubt I could ever sell or trade her in. Hoping someday to make the right friend to help me fix her back up. And then I hope to stuff a turbo in it and blow it up on a track someday lol!

 

[Ghawkins]

Any issue with tire Pressure sensor and such using the other wheels?

I likely would try to sell the 19's though, I doubt I would bother saving them as I tend to keep my cars litterally forever.

The old 98 Civic LX is in my driveway with some sort of unknown electrical issue. I doubt I could ever sell or trade her in. Hoping someday to make the right friend to help me fix her back up. And then I hope to stuff a turbo in it and blow it up on a track someday lol!

No issue with the TPMS. Honda does not use wheel sensors, but uses the ABS system to compare rolling diameter.

 

[fzr100098]

Sport 2.0T 10 speed seems to offer the best overall value, got mine (2019) for $28k and still love the car after 10 months. Was looking at a 2017 V6 when I bought it but they wanted $23k and it had about $20k miles

 

[StormX2]

Sport 2.0T 10 speed seems to offer the best overall value, got mine (2019) for $28k and still love the car after 10 months. Was looking at a 2017 V6 when I bought it but they wanted $23k and it had about $20k miles

I am just in love with the 10 Speed Automatic transmission, if I could I would love to just get the engine and transmission installed in another car ;p would love to see my old 98 Civic rocking that.

 

[fzr100098]

The 2.0 is a high tech engine as well, feels like every bit of 280 rwhp to me on a cold night with the low charge temp factor (running 93 octane gas). Best of both worlds really - power to smack a V6 0-60, great gas mileage (I average 26 mixed city and some freeway), good handling. For $28 OTD you can't beat this car

 

[hansboomer]

We got a EX-L 2.0L 10 speed auto. The Woman Of My Dreams needs leather, and I didn't want 19 inch wheels. It's the fastest car I've ever owned, even including some old school muscle cars, but she wanted the 2L because she doesn't like to press the gas pedal too far down. I don't like the push button transmission controls and it really could use a first gear lockout for winter driving. The 1.5L would have been better for winter driving, and more than fast enough for a family sedan.