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Now that Acura has 10speed & RDX also 10 Speed , I was Looking into Trans Fluid ./. Comparisons

I didn't see a Discussion about this , Possible on one of the Other Forums . .

I did Find a Label on back of Aura Transmission ATF 2.0 Bottle that says use it in Transmissions that have the
Picture of ( ATF 2.0 Label ) on Trans .

Ebay - also has Comparability Tools ? - which does say OK ( Not Trusting that ) 4 2018 Accord Touring 2.0 Turbo ./.

Anyone have any Other Input on this Topic 5 qts for Honda =$105
Aura - ATF Type 2.0 - 5Qts = $76

Bob Oil Guy - site - seems to be 3 years Behind in Info ..

I did Find Honda Oil Filter on Honda Parts Site for Less then the College Site , but with All these High Mileage Accords
Not One Transmission Changing ~ Oil & Filter ~ ?_?
 

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I Spoke to Soon , Site just Raised Price from $10.99 to $21.99 for same Filters . Current Stock Seller's Bought 9 Months ago , by Box of 48~96 in Box - ( Which Probably still in Stock )

What's Actual Reasons for Any Forums ?
Not to just Show Your Stuff or Skills ? BUT
To Gain Truth , to see New & Better ways for Doing , Fixing , Repairing , Mods Correctly as a Collective !


Everyone Please Call Acura Parts OEM Dealers & ask E-bay Seller ask Everyone & Tech's , Please Speak Up !

QUESTION IS : Did Honda & Acura - Spec. 10X Transmission Differently or Valve Body Differently - As - Acura 10X Trans calls for ATF Type 2.0

But Bottle Does NOT Say - ( Shake Well ) ? ~ This is ODD ./.

As a Collective of Truth = DIY & Vendor Parts Investigative & Correct Repair & Maintenance is of Up most Importance . .
 

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OK - Update = Acura auto Parts : says ATF 2.0 is same ./.

Honda Parts Guy say ATF2.0 is Same as what's using for Acura ./. - I'm still Not Convinced -

ADDING More Confusion Honda changed Part Number to : 08200-9017 from 08200-9015 & 08200-9015A ? WTF ?


Acura a qt. $15.92
Honda's new Part Number 08200-9017 might be $30. Honda Dealer I called ( NOT IN STOCK )


Called another just to Confirm : 08200-9015A means it is also for ACURA
 

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As Far as Part Number 08200-9017 being a New Number ? Not see this anywhere ./.

It does come up as ATF 3.1 which for 9 Speed Trans ( Different Design ) but According to Honda Shops
that have NO Inventory of Type 2.0 ATF ( Sounds like Tech have been Using it ) It does say Shake Before Use on that ~ 3.1 ATF Bottle ~

I'd like to see Both those " ATF's " Fluids Tested ( side by side )
 

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ALERT - SELLER on E-BAY IS AN A$$ HOLE ~ Bought 2.0 ATF from Seller 12 Days ago ./.

{ PARTSCONTAINER } selling ATF 2.0

For ACURA 2.0 ATF Trans Fluid 10 Days ago for 5qts for $65 = Never Delivered !

Never Shipped !

Even Paid Taxes etc.

Still Has Money - now have to call : E-Bay , Card Banks etc - Fill Complaint etc.

All Because Prices have all Gone up in Last 7 Days . .



I Order Both ATF's - Doing a Comparison & Sending out to Blackstone for Analysis ( All Screwed Up Now )
 

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Seeing how much you like talking to yourself, you probably need more help than this forum can provide.

08200-9006 CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) Civic Hybrid, CRZ, Civic GX & HX, Insight

08200-9008 ATF DW1 5 or 6 speed automatic transmission (Replaced Z1)

08200-9017 ATF-TYPE 3.1 2016 Pilot (9-speed)

08200-9015 ATF-TYPE 2.0 10 speed transmission (08200-9015A = same fluid for Acura)
https://bit.ly/10SpeedFluidChange (PDF)

08200-HCF2 HCF-2 second generation CVT transmissions
(some people find that the CVT needs 3.7, 3.8, 3.9 or all 4 quarts)
(Amsoil Synthetic CVT Fluid is at least as good)

08798-9031 MTF All manual transmission Hondas
(better: Genuine GM Fluid 88900399 Synchromesh Friction Modified Manual Transmission Fluid)
 

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Spending Time & Money to be Posting Up some Testing - But
A Hole Never Delivered ATF - also as Noted - several Honda Dealers were Out of Stock , as also Stated the PRICE
Just took a Jump on Honda ATF .. so It Turns Out You don't Read all of Post - as It's all about the Details ./.

Now Back to ATF for 10 Speed , so I Guess NO Body has a Anything on Acura ATF 2.0 Fluid - seeing it is able to be Bought at 33% Less then Honda ATF 2.0

I'd Imagined You'd be ALL Over It - like ~ But ~ NO Daaaaaa
 

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Almost everyone that has Ever Changed Trans Fluid knows that stuff Fly's ( Hence all Big Drain Pans ) in every garage across Nation ~ most ~
with Splash Shields or Huge Funnel ..
 

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OK , so According to 34 Post that Old Rent-A-Man say that Fluids are Exactly Same , an Few E-Bay Sites - We Better Agree to those Facts !

Well Not 1 Honda Tech would Confirm that , and 1 Honda Dealer said they were using ATF 3.1 for the 9 Speed as they were all Out . Brahhaaaa LOL


Now Back to Quality Assurance & Inspection Requirements & Black stone Testing ( I'll Need a Few More Actual Facts ) from Far Superior Sources !

Have Not Found 1 fact that States Transmission are same ( Shared Exactly as Manufactured ) it makes some sense to do that , But Automotive Designers & Engineers always to some Tweaking or just Plain Screwing with Items ..It seems !

Have Not been able to Find Clear Cut Photographic Evidence or Transmission Comparisons . .

With 400Tq Limit Implied by Tuners : It would seem the SUV Version would be Designed with Different ~ Valve Body ~ Stronger Requirements ./.

Auto to be Offered in Newer Civic - putting out more Out Put 2023 may have Different Clutch Linings ..

( Mostly it just Looks to be Thinner ATF with Additive ~ Friction Modifiers ~ )


This Still does NOT Lead to "FACTS " vs few Web Sites . . ( Oh God Internet said It )

 

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bernardiparts.com:
Honda ATF-TYPE 2.0 Part# 08200-9015

Due to additive shortages in the nation, you may receive 08200-9015A
 

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Discussion Starter · #11 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thanks to All for Their Input - Always Open Door - More Better ./.

OK just got Done doing ATF @ 51K - Video's Others Posted Help , as I was sitting on Fence whether to Use Boat Pump ( Which Pulls Oil Out )
Or do Drain as I Know ATF was going to Fly Out .

I don't have Professional ATF Pan or Deep Professional ATF Funnel for that Pro ATF Pan .. which also have a Long Notch in a Cover ( Also Keeps It from Splashing )

I Decided to Only Open the ATF Fluid Level Checker ( Smaller Area of Air Allowed In ) - this - Slow Gush Down ./.
I Also took Large Funnel I use for Fuel that has a Filter Screen in Bottom , I Stuff Outlet with pc. of Blue Work Towel - Turn Entire Thing Side ways Pointed Big Opening
At Drain Plug - Resting on Top of STD Oil Pan . .

This set up Worked Very Well , so much so I didn't even really need the sideways Funnel ( But it did Catch 100% Spatters )

A Few Interesting Observations :
1. ATF SMELL - Old ATF didn't Smell Pissy or Burnt , but Smelled Like Toast ( Like Oil Toasted )
2. ATF NEW Smells so Very Clean ! // Like it has a Fresh Detergent Package in It also // Not Like Brake Cleaner , but Like " Oil Based " House Hold Cleaner ./.
3. Magnet Plug does Great Job - Got 3 Half Finger Lengths of Blackish Grime Off & approx 7~10 very small Metal Particles . .
4. I Used 4 Drops Thread Locker on Install of said Magnet Drain Plug ./.
5. Hose Dia 5/8" Clear Vinyl is Actually .615/.620 OD just over 1/2" ID - Fit Nicely on My ATF Funnel I had Kicking around & Used 28" Length on End of 7" Funnel = Plenty .
6. Checked Level @ 40K was Good - Interestingly - I did NOT Get 4.5 qts Out ( I Attribute this to Changing Later @ 51K ) . . Draining for 9 Min. Hot !
7. I Add New ATF Amount of 4Qts & 475ML ( Qts Very some each 1 qt had 910 ML & another had 890ML ) Interesting ! Summary ( I added back 1 OZ more then 4.5 Qts )
8. Cleaning Package Agents probably Evaporate Over Time .
9. Friction Additive ( What I would call Impact Agents ) as ( Look like small Fragments of Teflon )
10. Impact Agents - get Contaminated with Very Fine Metal over Time - like - Brake Dust this is what ~ Collects on Magnet ~
11. Waiting to Long ~ Your 10X Transmission will be Lower on Fluid & Magnet would be Completely Cover & ( Unable to Collect )
said Particles - leading to Fast Wear ./.

12. I'M ADDING 2 PICTURES COMPARING OLD vs NEW ATF - I Purposely Allowed New ATF Pic Larger Hoping U see Impact Agents ./.

Dan


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See them Laying around Bottom Jar - Poured from new Honda ATF Qt that had been sitting 40 min. - still see about 1 Dozen . .
Caught Sun - just Right
 

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OK , so My Extra Order of Acura ATF 2.0 with the Acura Part Number showed Late Last Night .

Opened Today to get Sample for the Sun Spectrum Shot to see the Additive , also Examine for Smell ( Send Out to Blackstone )

Any Low & Behold - It's Honda 2.0 ATF ( Same Exact Bottles ) No Blue Cap , No Different Label etc. ?_? :rolleyes::confused:

There Goes that Testing - Out Window ./. I Tried Guys , well Hope everyone has a Good Holiday
 

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Here's what I Ordered to do ~ Testing ~ ./.

Liquid Bottle Fluid Bottle cap Font



Here's what was Shipped to Me , so that Squished Testing : :( Still in Two Pack ~ Had a Real Good Buy 5qts for $65 :cool: But they Would NOT - Ship It .. !
They then Removed Offer & Re-posted 4Qts for $70 :mad:

Fluid Packing materials Material property Cable Packaging and labeling
 

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AIRPORT HONDA IN KNOXVILLE, TN $15.92 Qt. Only 12 in Stock .. ( They have Not Tried Acura Version )

Like to get Good Explanation of 4 wheel Drive & 25 more Details to see How 10X is Hooked to that !


Trans shifts Smoother & Cleaner , Especially Down Shifts
 
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