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I Took the Accord for a little Test this Morning - Little Higher Up & Tighter Turns just to see where it stays Planted and How it Feels - Corner Loading
The Curves .. seems around the Apex I'm getting that Weight Loading Up Feeling the Tires Start to Give Effects - which seem Soft Rolling or Stretching Feel . .

Only 50-60 Mph on 35-50 Mph Curves .. ; Thinking were going to need a little more Tweaking in Handling Department ..
Maybe someone will come up with Custom Alignment Settings ..

In Mean Time Enjoy this - Anti-Drive , Caster Kick Back - Kit :

By WhiteLine - Nothing for Accord Honda Yet - Think they have a Front Bar Civic R Out .
 

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I Took the Accord for a little Test this Morning - Little Higher Up & Tighter Turns just to see where it stays Planted and How it Feels - Corner Loading
The Curves .. seems around the Apex I'm getting that Weight Loading Up Feeling the Tires Start to Give Effects - which seem Soft Rolling or Stretching Feel . .

Only 50-60 Mph on 35-50 Mph Curves .. ; Thinking were going to need a little more Tweaking in Handling Department ..
Maybe someone will come up with Custom Alignment Settings ..

In Mean Time Enjoy this - Anti-Drive , Caster Kick Back - Kit :

By WhiteLine - Nothing for Accord Honda Yet - Think they have a Front Bar Civic R Out .
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Did you test drive the Sport 2.0T? If not try that model and be certain to engage the Sport setting in the console. The Sport model comes with suspension upgrades and the Sport setting kicks that up further with dampener setting, throttle response, and transmission shift points (10 speed auto). Minimal understeer and good traction on corner exit. My Accord Sport feels a lot like my Mk7 GTI, just bigger. The biggest issue when playing road racer is the seat...can’t stay in it! Better tires helped too.
 

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Did you test drive the Sport 2.0T? If not try that model and be certain to engage the Sport setting in the console. The Sport model comes with suspension upgrades and the Sport setting kicks that up further with dampener setting, throttle response, and transmission shift points (10 speed auto). Minimal understeer and good traction on corner exit. My Accord Sport feels a lot like my Mk7 GTI, just bigger. The biggest issue when playing road racer is the seat...can’t stay in it! Better tires helped too.
The Accord Sport has different suspension (than what) and adjustable dampening suspension? Interesting.
 

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The Accord Sport has different suspension (than what) and adjustable dampening suspension? Interesting.
I believe the adaptive dampers are only found on the touring models.

The sport and the touring have "sport tuned suspension". I read this as firmer springs. But for sure the touring and sport have larger f/r sway bars and a faster rack for steering response.
 

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The Accord Sport has different suspension (than what) and adjustable dampening suspension? Interesting.
The Sport has stiffer roll bars and the Sport Mode setting stiffens the shocks and struts along with changing the throttle response, changing the shift points in the 10 speed, and showing a boost gauge in the instrument panel. The Touring model dampeners are dynamic according to road conditions with no driver involvement. I have not seen any professional assessment of the difference in the handling.
 

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Interesting - Service Guy said same thing about the Sport Mode on EX-L , but How Knows ..
I Ran the Dragon , today - Pretty Congested - Thou - You would have thought is was a National Holiday . . .

Did get a Few 1-2 Miles Runs with BMW , Mustang another Run and 2 Hot Bikes - One I was able to Push , the Other Run was Behind Me -
He had Hard Time Keeping Up for 1660ft. or so Brakes were getting Warm , so I Cooled It _ It was Tuned Custom Set Up Yamaha - He was Working the H out of it - Laying Way Over ..
He may have been able to get By in another 1600ft as the Tires were Starting to Fall Off . .

BMW's & Mustang Were Getting on it Hard - they weren't 110% Flat Out on the Edge , so only Testing .. I got Thumbs Up . .
One Bike Kawasaki 750cc or 950cc along those Lines I was Able to Push Him Hard - 22 Turns He got Crazy Low and Back Wheel even slide some on One Turn , so I back off and gave 300 ft of Space ..
He sure had all the Race Gear - Grab and Knee Pads etc. Looked like Stock Tires . . Thou . . and Header , Other Bike Yamaha had Lightweight Rotors , Special Shock set up , Header ,

Sport Mode - did alright !
Tires were Giving Up after 22-36 Hard Turns - Through the Very Tight Area - I was over the Line some as the Banking is Huge . . so Between Short Steep Banked S's 20 Mph Area . .

Eco Mode - Lagged and with Low Throttle Response - just didn't Cut It ..on Hilly Area _ Coming Up Out of A Tight Bottom was like Drag-in It Out . . Up Her Hills . .
MPG Dropped to 24-25 Mpg Fast .. had 30.5 Mpg with around 40miles on the Full Tank , so Had around 40 + 15 Miles = 65 Miles @ 24 Mpg at Heading Home Time .
Got Back to 31 Mpg on way back Home after 65 + 92 more Miles = 157 Miles ..

Tires did better then I thought they would .. as those Got Warmer they started to Squeal some .. Low Growling Squeal - sounded like they were Mad . .
Brakes got Bed'd In . . Pulled over to take a small break after 1 mile cool down and Front Rims were around 120 Degrees . . didn't have My - IR Gun with Me ..pretty close ..
Man Beautiful up there ,, Clear Clean Water . . Nice Day started out 61 Degrees .. around 75 Degrees Arriving @ Dragon .. Ran some Errands & Biz - First ..thing in Morning . .

PS : was Able to use Eco in Dragon with Aid of Paddles . . on 10 Speed ..
 

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The Sport has stiffer roll bars and the Sport Mode setting stiffens the shocks and struts along with changing the throttle response, changing the shift points in the 10 speed, and showing a boost gauge in the instrument panel. The Touring model dampeners are dynamic according to road conditions with no driver involvement. I have not seen any professional assessment of the difference in the handling.
Your understanding about the shocks stiffening in Sport mode, on the Sport, is incorrect.

I have attached 3 images, with all 3 front shock part numbers. You'll see the LX has a "..A03" shock where the Sport has the "..A93" most likely the difference being stiffer shocks on the Sport. However, i don't see any reference to an ADS, or something similar. Finally, you'll see the Touring has the ADS system yielding the highest price tag including unique dampers per side.
 

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Your understanding about the shocks stiffening in Sport mode, on the Sport, is incorrect.

I have attached 3 images, with all 3 front shock part numbers. You'll see the LX has a "..A03" shock where the Sport has the "..A93" most likely the difference being stiffer shocks on the Sport. However, i don't see any reference to an ADS, or something similar. Finally, you'll see the Touring has the ADS system yielding the highest price tag including unique dampers per side.
Thanks for the update. What is “ADS”? My understanding of the difference between the two trims is that the Touring shocks use dynamic dampening as an automatic function based on several inputs. On the other hand the increase in shock dampening in the Sport is only the result of using the Sport mode button. This info came from media tests, not always accurate. The same media that insists the Accord Hybrid has a CVT transmission.

For some reason I could not open your attached data. Just went by your text description.
 

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Thanks for the update. What is “ADS”? My understanding of the difference between the two trims is that the Touring shocks use dynamic dampening as an automatic function based on several inputs. On the other hand the increase in shock dampening in the Sport is only the result of using the Sport mode button. This info came from media tests, not always accurate. The same media that insists the Accord Hybrid has a CVT transmission.

For some reason I could not open your attached data. Just went by your text description.
For some reason, I can't open my attachments via web browser either. :( I will try to upload them from the browser and see if that yields positive results.

I assume ADS stands for Adaptive or Active Damper System or Shocks. I'm not sure if you have ever driven a vehicle with Active Dampening, but if the Accord has it (which I'm 95% sure it does not), then Honda seriously dropped the ball. I mean, do you really feel a difference, dampening wise, when you press Sport? I don't. Furthermore, it's hard to imagine that the increased technology and sophistication in the Sport's shocks that you are proposing would not cost more than the base LX shocks (the Touring Shocks cost quite a bit more than all of them). Both the base LX and 2.0Sport shocks cost the exact same, down to the cent.
 

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I’ve a Sport 2.0t. I think the first handling upgrade on this car is new tires. These tires while fine for most driving, are not high performance tires. I feel both tread squirm and significant sidewalk flex with these tires. The best tires I’ve ever experience (on a car) are Michelin Pilot Super Sports. They handle great without punishing you while lasting (depending on how you drive) 30k Miles. I’m not running out to buy them as I’m just not that interested. The stock Michelin’s are fine for now and I’m not spending the money. But when I need to replace them I’m looking to get a little wider and little taller set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports.
 

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I’ve a Sport 2.0t. I think the first handling upgrade on this car is new tires. These tires while fine for most driving, are not high performance tires. I feel both tread squirm and significant sidewalk flex with these tires. The best tires I’ve ever experience (on a car) are Michelin Pilot Super Sports. They handle great without punishing you while lasting (depending on how you drive) 30k Miles. I’m not running out to buy them as I’m just not that interested. The stock Michelin’s are fine for now and I’m not spending the money. But when I need to replace them I’m looking to get a little wider and little taller set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports.
These tires are rated at 45k miles - probably the life of the lease as most "car sales" are targeted for now. I bought mine and will probably replace them halfway thru that...
 
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