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Over at the general discussion forum, I posted two "Will I Fit---Comfortably?" threads, asking for other 2018 Accord-owners' experiences in fitting comfortably behind the wheel of a 2018 Accord. Not just for my height and weight, but also in the light of a few stray comments I came across regarding various complaints of discomfort. The responses I received were informative and reassuring. After researching the car, I had put the 2018 Accord at the top of my list for a new car this year.

Yesterday, I purchased a 2018 Honda Accord EX-L 2.0T with navigation, in the kona coffee metallic colour. Getting it home was quite an experience, but I'll get to that in a moment.

Last Saturday, I visited a dealership ninety miles away from my house. to get my first test-drive of the EX-L 2.0T. Overall, I was pleased with the car. During the negotiations with the dealership, their second pencil was within the price I was willing to pay, but at the outer edges. Since there were at least three other dealerships with the same car, I told that dealership that I would visit other dealers and, if their's was the best price I was given, I'd be back. Of course, I got a lot of "reasons" why I shouldn't do that, but I held firm.

Based upon my previous e-mail communications with all of the dealerships, I determined my best next choice would be a dealership one-hundred-twenty-five miles away. (Yes, I will drive that far to get a good deal.) I forwarded the Internet guy there a scan of the offer from the first dealership, adding if his establishment would beat that offer, I'd be down the next day to buy.

He responded with a **** of a good OTD price, but added the caveat that he couldn't offer a solid number on my trade-in value until his people could physically examine the car---which is reasonable. Unfortunately, solid rains for the next four days kept me from driving down there until yesterday, my fingers crossed the whole time that the car wouldn't be sold out from under me.

Talk about an easy experience. After I test-drove their EX-L 2.0T, the dealership honoured the OTB price it had e-mailed me, gave me slightly under the value that the first dealership offered my trade-in, and on top of all that, added something that I hadn't even considered or mentioned---the Honda $500 bonus for retired military.

I've never signed on the first pencil before, but I couldn't see getting a better deal than that anywhere else.

The drive home was a real-life example of the adage "The proof of the pudding is in the eating."

It should have been a nice two-hour drive home, nearly all of which on an interstate highway. But, sometime during my visit to the dealership, there was an accident with a vehicle hauling hazardous material on that interstate, and there was a hazmat spill all over the place, located between the dealership and my home. I got to drive normally for about forty minutes before hitting the backed-up traffic.

I spent the next hour moving little more than two miles. I finally got to an exit and followed the course suggested by my car's navigation system. Unfortunately, so did many of the other cars in the same road jam. So I spent the next two hours driving state roads and country roads in a a caravan which ran at odds with intersections and cross-traffic not designed to deal with such a heavy load of vehicles.

Finally, I got back on the interstate north of the spill, with forty-five miles to my house, and got to enjoy the nice, easy drive I had expected.

The EX-L 2.0T performed like a champ. The engine was alert and responsive; the few times I had to make a quick move, it moved! All of the sensors worked as advertised. (I think I'm going to turn off the "lane departure" one, though; it's annoying and doesn't really provide that much of a safety element.) The navigation system worked closer to real time than the one in my Altima had.

As far as comfort, I was perfectly fine. No demonstrations of "excruciating back pain". The seat bottom wasn't as plush as the one in my Altima, but it wasn't terrible. I had to play with the telescoping steering wheel to get the most comfortable placement for my arms (the one advantage I had in being stuck in almost non-moving traffic for an hour). When I finally pulled into my driveway, I felt no more discomfort than anyone would feel after driving a car for four hours straight. And the minor stiffness and ache was gone after a few minutes of being out of the car.

As with my Altima, I know that the Accord is a finely crafted machine. However, I always hold off on my final evaluation of the car until after a couple of months, just in case I got the one that came off the line while the quality-control guy was on his break or something. But, it certainly performed well through that trial of fire driving home.

I think I'm going to enjoy this car.
 

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Thank you! I spent about an hour this morning, putting my seat position in memory and then personalising all the settings to my liking. The one thing I was unable to figure out was how to delete preset channels for Sirius XM and preset my own---the hard-copy owner's manual doesn't explain it (or it's well hidden in the book). But I'll figure it out.

And now the Good Mrs. Benson doesn't have to worry about getting my seat back just the way I like it after she drives my car.
 

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Thank you! I spent about an hour this morning, putting my seat position in memory and then personalising all the settings to my liking. The one thing I was unable to figure out was how to delete preset channels for Sirius XM and preset my own---the hard-copy owner's manual doesn't explain it (or it's well hidden in the book). But I'll figure it out.

And now the Good Mrs. Benson doesn't have to worry about getting my seat back just the way I like it after she drives my car.
The preset issue has been addressed before with no resolution. I guess the only way is to keep adding the channels you prefer and when you reach the preset limit the one ones you entered by mistake or decided you didn’t like are just crowded out. I assume this applies to FM presets as well.

Glad you the to car. The driving dynamics of my 2.0T are spot on as well. The radio preset issue and inconsistent auto temp control are my only issues after 10,000 miles.
 

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The preset issue has been addressed before with no resolution. I guess the only way is to keep adding the channels you prefer and when you reach the preset limit the one ones you entered by mistake or decided you didn’t like are just crowded out. I assume this applies to FM presets as well.
I played around with it some, and I discovered that, while I couldn't remove preset channels (the salesman preset a couple of Sirius channels at random while showing me how the screen worked and obviously that had been demonstrated before, because there were about ten selected channels), I could replace them. I just replaced the first four preset channels in queue with the ones I usually listen to. Since those are the only preset channels that show on the screen without having to sweep, that does the job just as well for me.
 

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Thank you! I spent about an hour this morning, putting my seat position in memory and then personalising all the settings to my liking. The one thing I was unable to figure out was how to delete preset channels for Sirius XM and preset my own---the hard-copy owner's manual doesn't explain it (or it's well hidden in the book). But I'll figure it out.

And now the Good Mrs. Benson doesn't have to worry about getting my seat back just the way I like it after she drives my car.
Go to the Honda Owners Website, create an account, and you can download all the manuals... lot easier to search for stuff. Also you can order additional print manuals (at the before mentioned website) that weren't provided if you request them...
A printed Owner's Manual, Navigation Manual, and Warranty Booklet are complimentary to the first registered owner, up to six months after vehicle purchase. These manuals require a valid VIN and mailing address.
 

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Nice! It's a brilliant car all-around. One option (AWD) and one tweak (audible/tactile alert vs. active steering for LKAS) away from being a perfect commuter for me.
 

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Update

It's now been two months since I purchased my EX-L 2.0T with navigation, enough time to get acquainted with the car.

Let's start with the biggest of the issues. Like many other 2018 Honda Accord owners, I fell heir to a loud rattle inside the dash. It sounded like a rod of light metal was banging inside the dash assembly, in response to every road imperfection and bump. The sound materialised three days after I got the car home and grew steadily more maddening.

Before taking the car to the local Honda dealership service centre, I went to YouTube, on the chance that I might find a video of a 2018 Accord with the same kind of rattle. I found a number of entries from 2018 Accord owners, complaining of rattles, and two of the videos showed a rattle that was identical to mine.

But there was good news. In one of these videos, the poster and a respondent who had suffered the same kind of rattle identified the problem. Evidently, the culprit was reverberation caused by the plastic caps on the strut bolts. Both posters indicated that once the caps were removed or buffered, the rattle went away for good. On the second video, there were remarks by the poster and several respondents, all of whom suffered from the same metallic rattle. These folks all followed the example of having the plastic caps removed from the strut bolts of the cars, and, yes, their rattles disappeared, also.

So when I got to the Honda service centre, I explained the foregoing. I had a bit of a time getting the mechanics to listen to me; on the surface of it, there wouldn't seem to be a connexion between the strut bolts and a noise in the dashboard. But after the mechanics tried everything else, they finally gave removing the plastic caps from the strut bolts a shot.

And sure enough, the rattle has disappeared. I've been over the worst kinds of roadways since then, without a hint of a rattle or squeak. In fact, I'm impressed at how quiet the car is. Buick likes to tout the high level of quietude inside of its cars, and I had a Buick once. They are very quiet, indeed. My EX-L now isn't quite that quiet, but it's close.



I'm also impressed with the responsiveness of the engine and the steering. There's no lag in the acceleration, nor in the response by the wheel when I turn it. I'm not a speed-demon, but a couple of times lately, I've had to push the accelerator, and it's a great feeling to hear that growl under the hood as the car instantly picks up.

Other random likes:

The back-up camera is clearer and sharper over that of my last car, a 2014 Nissan Altima 3.5 SL.

The seating is comfortable---not as comfortable as my Altima's "zero-gravity" seats were; I have to give Nissan that. But, so far, I've not noticed any comfort issues. I'd read a handful of reviews from those who said the driver's seat in the 2018 Accord had caused them extreme discomfort after an hour or a half-hour or, as one fellow complained, fifteen minutes. The longest I have driven my EX-L continuously is the four-hour drive from the dealership, and not once have I experienced anything but the normal stiffness that comes from driving for too long.

A few tall reviewers had complained about their legs banging the underside of the dashboard or the centre console. I don't know what they're talking about; my legs come nowhere near the underside of the dash, nor does my right leg bang against the centre console. The seat goes just far enough back to accommodate my legs (I'm 6'3"), and there are no spacial issues at all.

I love the auto-lock feature. I'm one of those fellows who's always wondering, "Did I lock my car, or not?", and then going back to check. The auto-lock feature saves me from that.

Being late autumn/early winter, I haven't had a need for the air conditioning yet, but the heat comes on gangbusters, and when I set it to defrost my windshield, the glass is cleared faster than with any other car I've ever had.



And there are some things which aren't exactly negatives, but are a bit of a downgrade from my Altima.

The smaller gas tank is annoying. I'm getting good mileage---about 27 m.p.h. city/highway driving combined---but the Accord's tank is four gallons smaller than the Altima was, so I'm gassing up more frequently. Not a terrible burden, but I miss being able to drive for three weeks without a stop at the petrol station.

Some of this next stuff might be available in the Accord, and I just haven't figured out how to do it, yet.

For example, text messaging doesn't seem to be as direct as it was in the Altima. The work-around I've discovered is that, if I keep a text message from, say, my wife in the queue of my cell phone, then in the car, I can pull up that I have a text message from her and reply to that specific message. But I don't see a way to, from the car, initiate a text message to someone.

I have Sirius XM, but I don't get weather updates---the five-hour forecast and the six-day forecast---like I did on the Altima. Or at least, I cannot find them.

I've noticed that the screen display doesn't automatically adjust for day and night; one has to manually hit the day/night button. I'm not completely dismayed at that; when I had auto-adjust, sometimes it adjusted from day to night, or vice versa, at the merest change in illumination, such as when I drove beneath an overpass.

Lastly, with the Accord, the headlights don't come on when I remote-start the car. That one I miss first thing in the morning, when I leave for work and it's still dark outside.

If any of you Honda veterans know something I'm missing, please chime in.



Overall, getting the Accord was a step up. I look forward to every opportunity to drive it. If you enjoy driving your car, that's the biggest part of it.
 

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@CDR Benson great write up/evaluation of your experience so far. Could you provide a link to the YouTube videos you mentioned about the strut caps being the cause of the vibrations (first I'd heard about this). I have a high speed rattle (above 70 mph) that I've noticed a couple times and wondering if this could be my issue.

I'll try to address some of your "things which aren't exactly negatives, but are a bit of a downgrade from my Altima" that I'm familiar with/use.

Text Messaging and ability to reply "hands free"... I have my phone (Android) connected via Android Auto and can use voice commands to send a text. Example: Ok Google Text "name" mobile blah, blah, blah. It will repeat what I have said and ask if I want to send or change. I'm sure this feature would be available w/Apple Car Play also using Siri. If I remember correctly before I started using Android Auto a text notification would appear on the top of my infotainment center and I could hit it and it would turn the text to voice and read it to me, once done I could reply (haven't used that in awhile so I could be mistaken, and this was also w/an Android phone so that may make a difference).

Regarding the auto navigation screen change (daylight/night) mine does that on it's own. See attachment below (Page 31) for explanation of that feature. There is an * (asterisk) w/the disclaimer that this may not be available on all models and that may be the reason it's not working on yours.

My lights don't come on w/auto start either but will as soon as I hit the start button upon entry. Only thing I can think of (in my case) is that it could be an annoyance to my neighbors to have my car running in the driveway at the crack of dawn w/my LED lights shining brightly at their house. Also might be a safety/security feature to keep the fact that the car is running as discreet as possible.
 

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@CDR Benson great write up/evaluation of your experience so far. Could you provide a link to the YouTube videos you mentioned about the strut caps being the cause of the vibrations (first I'd heard about this). I have a high speed rattle (above 70 mph) that I've noticed a couple times and wondering if this could be my issue.
This link is to the YouTube video in which the owner uncovered the cause of his rattle:
The second respondent down, Zhenhao Zhou, if you expand his replies, amplfies the poster's information with the info on the plastic caps.

This link is to the video to which many respondents, having seen the video above, posted that their rattles were eliminated the same way:

Hope these help in your case.




Text Messaging and ability to reply "hands free"... I have my phone (Android) connected via Android Auto and can use voice commands to send a text. Example: Ok Google Text "name" mobile blah, blah, blah. It will repeat what I have said and ask if I want to send or change. I'm sure this feature would be available w/Apple Car Play also using Siri. If I remember correctly before I started using Android Auto a text notification would appear on the top of my infotainment center and I could hit it and it would turn the text to voice and read it to me, once done I could reply (haven't used that in awhile so I could be mistaken, and this was also w/an Android phone so that may make a difference).
The issue here might be the fact that I don't have a smart phone; however, many auto manufacturers are increasingly using links to smart phones to activate features that used to be endemic to the car itself. For example, many makes now offer remote start through one's smart phone, rather than a function of the key fob. The text-messaging feature might be one of those that Honda has shifted to a smart-phone function.



Regarding the auto navigation screen change (daylight/night) mine does that on it's own. See attachment below (Page 31) for explanation of that feature. There is an * (asterisk) w/the disclaimer that this may not be available on all models and that may be the reason it's not working on yours.
Thanks. I'll have to check and see if there's a sunlight sensor in my car, and if so, what's interfering with it.



My lights don't come on w/auto start either but will as soon as I hit the start button upon entry. Only thing I can think of (in my case) is that it could be an annoyance to my neighbors to have my car running in the driveway at the crack of dawn w/my LED lights shining brightly at their house. Also might be a safety/security feature to keep the fact that the car is running as discreet as possible.
Your guess that it is intended as a safety feature is probably right, but, if possible, it should be left to the driver's discretion. I miss having my driveway illuminated for me when I left for work before sunrise.


Much obliged for your info!
 

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Thanks for the links to YouTube. As I stated my rattle is more pronounced/noticeable at higher speeds, however I normally keep my radio on when in the car. I will have to drive the car w/the radio off for a few days to see if I can hear it at lower speeds. I did find a technical bulletin issued by Honda (TSB 14-067 Clunk/Rattle From Front Suspension or Under Dash When Driving Over Bumps or Turning) that speaks of the bolt under the cap not being properly torqued causing rattle in earlier models of Honda's. If I hear the rattle at lower speeds w/the radio off I may try to remove those caps myself for a day or two to see if it goes away, along w/having the torque checked on the bolt the next time it's at the dealer. Thanks again for the info.
 
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