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Not sure what steering torque has anything to do with a waaay overpriced aftermarket gps/dash cam system that could possibly void your Honda Sense warranty by tapping into the camera system like that. Personally I would stay far away from that. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
 

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Not sure what steering torque has anything to do with a waaay overpriced aftermarket gps/dash cam system that could possibly void your Honda Sense warranty by tapping into the camera system like that. Personally I would stay far away from that. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
Level 2 autonomy is what I’m trying to accomplish. The torque makes a difference because it may not be able to stay centered in the lane taking a curve at the speed limit.
 

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Level 2 autonomy is what I’m trying to accomplish. The torque makes a difference because it may not be able to stay centered in the lane taking a curve at the speed limit.
The car is already level 2 and what your describing is beyond a level 2 systems capabilities. It doesn't drive the car for you it's a driver's aid. You will still need to steer the vehicle in sharp curves and actually drive the car and pay attention. Again your putting a redundant aftermarket system in place of a stock one that works very very well already. Especially considering you haven't even used the system yet because you said your concerned it may not. The stock system happens to be from a company that has the first ever level 3 vehicle (it was the only but I think Audi has a new A8 in Germany with the tech) and is already testing level 4. Honda much further along than just about everyone else. And also reiterate that the system you want to hack into basically controls the entire car. Good luck
 

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I had one for the 2021, used it for 1,000 miles then returned it. It made road trips definitely nicer not having to always hold the wheel, but with the limitation of the steering torque, it wasn't much more useful than stock. I would skip it, especially on Hondas. If it was a Toyota it might be worth it
 

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I have a comma 2 in my accord. I love it, would never go back. There is no comparison between stock and comma. Comma is hands off, stock requires hands on the wheel. Comma is constantly updated, upgraded, and learning. It gets better all the time. Stock is what it is and will never be better in your vehicle or upgraded. Comma has full laneless driving as well. Stop sign and stop light detection rolling out soon (videos already up), better driver attention detection, etc.

It's all of 5 minutes to install, and doesn't hurt stock at all. One click of a cable and your back to stock. It's also money-back guaranteed. Try it, don't like it and send it back.

Not sure why the hostility towards it, it's just leagues better then stock and only getting better every day. Saying it's no different then stock isn't even remotely true. Just my 2 cents from an actual owner and user of the system.
 

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I have a comma 2 in my accord. I love it, would never go back. There is no comparison between stock and comma. Comma is hands off, stock requires hands on the wheel. Comma is constantly updated, upgraded, and learning. It gets better all the time. Stock is what it is and will never be better in your vehicle or upgraded. Comma has full laneless driving as well. Stop sign and stop light detection rolling out soon (videos already up), better driver attention detection, etc.

It's all of 5 minutes to install, and doesn't hurt stock at all. One click of a cable and your back to stock. It's also money-back guaranteed. Try it, don't like it and send it back.

Not sure why the hostility towards it, it's just leagues better then stock and only getting better every day. Saying it's no different then stock isn't even remotely true. Just my 2 cents from an actual owner and user of the system.
Because these systems are not fool proof and people should not be taking their hands off the steering wheel as you described. I've said it time and time again and I'll repeat myself now, there is no stitch thing as full self-driving automated systems in existence. No one should be taking their hands off the steering wheel for any long period of time. The systems are not designed for that and they will get you into trouble / an accident. The only company in the world that makes a full self-driving vehicle capable of doing this is the hundred Acura Legends Honda made last year. End of story
 

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Ahhh, so you are assuming people are sleeping at the wheel which is quite impossible with the comma. Of course it isn't fully automated self driving. Neither they or I or anyone I've seen has described it as such. You also completely missed the facial and eye recognition the unit has to assure you are in fact paying attention or its not usable and will disengage. You cant even engage without your seatbelt latched....you know all that safety assurances stock DOES NOT have. It's safer then stock, period.
 

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Ahhh, so you are assuming people are sleeping at the wheel which is quite impossible with the comma. Of course it isn't fully automated self driving. Neither they or I or anyone I've seen has described it as such. You also completely missed the facial and eye recognition the unit has to assure you are in fact paying attention or its not usable and will disengage. You cant even engage without your seatbelt latched....you know all that safety assurances stock DOES NOT have. It's safer then stock, period.
Let me break it down for you in plain English. No system where you were taking your hands off the wheel is safe or safer than stock, period end of story. It's supposed to be impossible for people to have their Tesla's drive themselves but it isn't. Mercedes and numerous other manufacturers have similar systems as you just described installed in their vehicles as well, and there are workarounds for them too. The current self-driving technology is not advanced to the point where anyone should be taking their hands off the wheels for any extended period of time. All these systems do is provide us a fake sense of security and for the most part they should be illegal how they are advertised. There is absolutely no system manufactured currently that can safely navigate and mitigate full self-driving having real level four autonomous capabilities except for the aforementioned Honda and they were only sold in Japan in a limited number of a hundred. Even still I wouldn't trust them
 

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Until there is a proper steering torque mod, grab yourself a comma 2 (these can be found much cheaper than the C3's, especially used!) and make driving chill

I have had one for almost 2 years now and the experience is incredible. It's bread and butter is the highway and it honestly makes long road trips a breeze.

Go into it with proper expectations that it will likely never be Tesla FSD, and on the highway you'll occasionally need to help it around turns, and you'll love the crap out of it. Anyone claiming it reduces safety is honestly just plain wrong. If anything, the improved performance (seriously, it's night and day better than stock Honda lane keeping) paired with driver monitoring makes the experience much more predictable and prevents distraction, ensuring your eyes are always on the road. If you feel the need to put your hands on the wheel, there's nothing stopping that as well, but with proper attention it's 100% safe to use
 

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Until there is a proper steering torque mod, grab yourself a comma 2 (these can be found much cheaper than the C3's, especially used!) and make driving chill

I have had one for almost 2 years now and the experience is incredible. It's bread and butter is the highway and it honestly makes long road trips a breeze.

Go into it with proper expectations that it will likely never be Tesla FSD, and on the highway you'll occasionally need to help it around turns, and you'll love the crap out of it. Anyone claiming it reduces safety is honestly just plain wrong. If anything, the improved performance (seriously, it's night and day better than stock Honda lane keeping) paired with driver monitoring makes the experience much more predictable and prevents distraction, ensuring your eyes are always on the road. If you feel the need to put your hands on the wheel, there's nothing stopping that as well, but with proper attention it's 100% safe to use
I went with the 3. Simply amazing!
 
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