93 because 2.0 accord are high compression engine and you want to pump top tier gas reduce down knock control make ur car run better
ktuner stage 2 back to stock
I will be passing my 2.0 auto to my wife soon ,and put the ktuner tune back to stock. Can i go back using 87 octane or still have to use 93?
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if you're back to stock simply use the honda recommended octane fuel, that would be a minimum of 87 for either the 1.5 or 2.0. why waste your money on something not needed? if your engine is experiencing knocks or other operating issues with 87 octane you have bigger issues to deal with that higher octane fuel won't solve.
I would never put 87 in any turbo car even if the manual says its fine. Why? Because that is done to lower the EPA yearly fuel cost on the car's window sticker, NOT to improve YOUR ownership and reliability. This is well documented and is dangerous.
Go ask my coworker with his 3 blown turbo cars (BMW, Volvo, and Honda) that he ran "recommended 87 octane" and he bought them because he didn't have to use 89+....Little did he know he knocked the cylinders to death after 50k miles.
A tune simply exacerbates any weaknesses in an engine. You have to run 93 on a tune BECAUSE the engine isn't fully stable on 87 STOCK imagine if you add boost. Hondata has also proven honda tunes all their OEM ECU's on 100 octane.
Go ask my coworker with his 3 blown turbo cars (BMW, Volvo, and Honda) that he ran "recommended 87 octane" and he bought them because he didn't have to use 89+....Little did he know he knocked the cylinders to death after 50k miles.
A tune simply exacerbates any weaknesses in an engine. You have to run 93 on a tune BECAUSE the engine isn't fully stable on 87 STOCK imagine if you add boost. Hondata has also proven honda tunes all their OEM ECU's on 100 octane.
you can feed your honda anything you want. it's your car, your money, and your choice. i trust the fact that honda recommends 87 octane or higher (as acceptable alternatives) and the fact that of the hundreds of thousands of honda turbos on the road, in various models and countries and no widespread engine failures as proof. my accord just crossed 150k and runs like a champ. all of those miles on 87. i'd be more concerned with carbon deposits due to direct injection before a catastophic failure because of knocking. seems like almost every time there's some sort of problem here on the forum and it always starts with "...stage X tune" or "here's a list of the mods i made...". maybe we should simply leave our cars stock and understand they're not race cars, never going to be, and deal with reality. i firmly believe anyone can do what they want with their property and will always defend one's right to do so. run 93 if you want, i'll stick with 87. btw: what bmw in your lifetime recommended 87 octane? as long as i can remember it was minimum of 91. same too of volvo. if your friend wasn't following the recommendations then he gets what he deserves.
No engine failures?you can feed your honda anything you want. it's your car, your money, and your choice. i trust the fact that honda recommends 87 octane or higher (as acceptable alternatives) and the fact that of the hundreds of thousands of honda turbos on the road, in various models and countries and no widespread engine failures as proof. my accord just crossed 150k and runs like a champ. all of those miles on 87. i'd be more concerned with carbon deposits due to direct injection before a catastophic failure because of knocking. seems like almost every time there's some sort of problem here on the forum and it always starts with "...stage X tune" or "here's a list of the mods i made...". maybe we should simply leave our cars stock and understand they're not race cars, never going to be, and deal with reality. i firmly believe anyone can do what they want with their property and will always defend one's right to do so. run 93 if you want, i'll stick with 87. btw: what bmw in your lifetime recommended 87 octane? as long as i can remember it was minimum of 91. same too of volvo. if your friend wasn't following the recommendations then he gets what he deserves.
Do you Google? The 1.5T rips itself apart 1 mile past warranty and there is a healthy amount of 2.0's with failures, not as many as the 1.5T but still enough for people to not buy a Honda the moment the turbo engines came out. Not saying the engine will fail after a few thousand miles, but it won't go past 100k miles.
Go on any car sales site and sort Honda 1.5's and 2.0's by mileage and there's not many past 100k unlike ANY Toyota and you'll see that at least 25% make it last 200k miles.
If you want your car to be disposable, treat it as such.
The key to longevity is good oil, good gas, and frequent maintenance, or drive it like a grandma, or both.
you're talking head gasket failures? i've seen the complaints, but really, only the complainers get the press. people without problems simply never write to say "all is well, can't complain" and they comprise the largest population by far. where are all the stories of anyone complaining their engines tore themselves apart because of using 87 octane fuel? like i said, i've made it to 150k already and my only complaint are horrible rear brakes. still running the original fronts. the backs, i'm on my third set. i totally agree with you, good oil, good fuel (87 or higher, but 87 is good fuel as well), and treating the car like grandpa is key to longevity. i'd also add that avoiding mods is another key. much to the dismay of many here on the boards.
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