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New here, apologies if covered prior...

Just got the 21 Touring, have had about a month
Have read that when getting a new vehicle, one should have it waxed 30-60 days after purchasing?
Is this an absolute? Or just a recommendation ?
Thanks in advance
 

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New here, apologies if covered prior...

Just got the 21 Touring, have had about a month
Have read that when getting a new vehicle, one should have it waxed 30-60 days after purchasing?
Is this an absolute? Or just a recommendation ?
Thanks in advance
You should clay bar and wax immediately. I would also do a ceramic coating on it too because of the soft Honda clear coat
 

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You should clay bar and wax immediately. I would also do a ceramic coating on it too because of the soft Honda clear coat
Thanks for the intel
So, I've never really done all that
Is it ok to have them do at the local wash, when they do the wax?
Or is that something, the clay bar and ceramic thing that is typically done at like an automotive shop?
 

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Agreed 100% on clay and ceramic. The process takes a little while, but it's cheap and worth it considering how much a new paint job would cost.

Bought my 2018 used this past summer, and I could tell the previous owner didn't do this--fine spots and little bumps melded into the clearcoat. In addition to clay bar, I had to run a mechanical polisher to correct the paint, followed by gentle IPA wipedown (there is some controversy about this - do a bit of research), then a ceramic coat on top.

My car parks on the street under trees in my neighborhood, so there's constantly sap and random bird **** to deal with. I always have fresh microfiber clothes, quick detailer to clean spots, and Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax to put a fresh coat after a car wash. Not a show car finish, but it's held up very well for half the year already.
 

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You should clay bar and wax immediately. I would also do a ceramic coating on it too because of the soft Honda clear coat
So Ive been contacting a few local detailers today, and the 3-4 that responded all said clay bar is not needed, due to being a new car.
This was one response :
"highly do not recommend getting a new car claybared. Clay baring induces micro scratches and should only be done before polishing. I'd recommend going with a wash and wax I charge $115-$140. Clay barring is an abrasive so when rubbing otherwise known as claying the surface of your vehicles paint it causes scratches. You mechanically remove embedded contaminates in the clear coat. Since you have a new car there is nothing embedded in the clear coat, which then claybaring is pointless."
 

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So Ive been contacting a few local detailers today, and the 3-4 that responded all said clay bar is not needed, due to being a new car.
This was one response :
"highly do not recommend getting a new car claybared. Clay baring induces micro scratches and should only be done before polishing. I'd recommend going with a wash and wax I charge $115-$140. Clay barring is an abrasive so when rubbing otherwise known as claying the surface of your vehicles paint it causes scratches. You mechanically remove embedded contaminates in the clear coat. Since you have a new car there is nothing embedded in the clear coat, which then claybaring is pointless."
This person is only less than halfwaycorrect. Clay bar is not an abrasive. Clay bars remove contaminants in the paint causing the irregularities in the clear coat from the contaminants that were there. It does not create micro scratches. It creates dips and valleys in the clear coat. There are many contaminants that accumulate in the clear coat from the factory and during shipping. The only thing he said that was correct is that you need to polish the car after, which is something you need to do if you're doing a ceramic coating, or you want your paint in top condition, anyways. I have been using clay bars and detailing for over 20 years. If you don't believe there's anything in your clear coat, do a test section with a clay bar you can feel the difference immediately. In fact there's a tremendous amount of contaminants in the clear coat from the factory and from the shipping process. Even cars that are shipped in cover containers have contaminants in their paint. New Maserati, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche and Bentley all the same. I have done this to all of them. The difference is immediately noticeable as soon as you do two swipes with a clay bar on the paint. You should do a true detail and do the clay bar process to the vehicle at least once a year. When I would clay bar I would polish twice, a heavy and fine polish, and then wax. This is not an easy or quick process. It will take to all day with a professional buffer/orbital. You need to be talking to professional detail shops, not some guy that just PDI's cars for the dealership.
 

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This person is only less than halfwaycorrect. Clay bar is not an abrasive. Clay bars remove contaminants in the paint causing the irregularities in the clear coat from the contaminants that were there. It does not create micro scratches. It creates dips and valleys in the clear coat. There are many contaminants that accumulate in the clear coat from the factory and during shipping. The only thing he said that was correct is that you need to polish the car after, which is something you need to do if you're doing a ceramic coating, or you want your paint in top condition, anyways. I have been using clay bars and detailing for over 20 years. If you don't believe there's anything in your clear coat, do a test section with a clay bar you can feel the difference immediately. In fact there's a tremendous amount of contaminants in the clear coat from the factory and from the shipping process. Even cars that are shipped in cover containers have contaminants in their paint. New Maserati, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche and Bentley all the same. I have done this to all of them. The difference is immediately noticeable as soon as you do two swipes with a clay bar on the paint. You should do a true detail and do the clay bar process to the vehicle at least once a year. When I would clay bar I would polish twice, a heavy and fine polish, and then wax. This is not an easy or quick process. It will take to all day with a professional buffer/orbital. You need to be talking to professional detail shops, not some guy that just PDI's cars for the dealership.
Thanks so much, really appreciate you taking the time to explain. Trying to educate myself on this..
Just want to do the right thing, in taking care of this car. Its only a month old, and want to do whats right.
What you describe makes complete sense. I went on Yelp, and started searching guys around my area. Not a dealership. Most seem to be mobile detailers, so probably the quality varies widely? Im getting quotes betwixt $80 - $225
Anyone you recommend in the Orange County area, if you know of any?
 

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Hello there, everyone.
You should instantly clay bar and wax. Because of the soft Honda clear coat, I would additionally apply a ceramic coating to it.
Yes while technically you could just clay bar and wax, I don't recommend it. I would always do at least one coat of polish before waxing. Polish fills in the grooves and smooths over the paint. The difference in depth and liquidity is extremely noticeable. You will also use less ceramic clear coat because all the dips and valleys are already covered up.
 
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