[yosten.ae4]

Hello everyone,

I’ve been thinking lately about how few accord manuals I have ever seen in person (not at a dealer) and wondering what the numbers actually are. I am talking specifically about the 10th gen and leaning more on the side of 2.0, but would love to know total numbers in general. Car and driver gives some vague range of 2,600-5,400 were sold for 2019. I have a theory in my head that there are most likely less 2.0 manuals on the roads, in North America, than there are Type Rs. It would be kinda cool to know what number out of how many each of us have like the Type R owners get to know. The accord is obviously not near as popular as the Type R and Honda doesn’t think we need these little gimmicks, but I want to feel special too. If anyone else has better internet sleuthing skills or access to numbers I don’t know about I’d love to hear!

 

[PhotoJim]

Roughly 1-2% of Honda's US Accord sales were manuals (including 1.5Ts). I suspect the percentage in Canada was higher though not high. (I had no trouble getting a manual 2.0T last fall, even though they were long gone in the US.)

I suspect that the percentage of 2.0Ts sold as manuals is probably greater than the percentage of 1.5Ts, but that's speculation on my part. It's also hard to compare Canadian Sport 1.5Ts with US ones, since the Canadian one is equipped much as the 2.0T (save the engine), with sunroof and all the other frills, but the US Sport 1.5T was pretty stripped down.

 

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I remember specifically reading that Honda discontinued offering the 6MT due to poor sales. You could get a rough-but-decent ballpark estimate using PhotoJim's 2% of sales from 2018-2020 (758,096 in North America from Wikipedia, sourced from hondanews.com) ~ 15,000 vehicles. Yes, you would need to dig a bit deeper to filter out 2.0T, but I would guess a majority of the people ordering 6MT would also order the sport performance engine. Maybe 8-10k vehicles making assumptions.

Overall, 10k is a lot of cars. Also, they're harder to sell since a lot of people don't know how to drive a manual anymore. If you're willing to go out of your way a bit to find one, you will likely get a good deal. Buying mine, I was the first person to test drive it in three weeks.

For anyone else 2.0 6MT shopping, I used CarFax and filtered the 2.0 engine / Ctrl-F for manual transmission. This lead me to the Chevy dealer right down the road where a Honda sales guy (from right across the highway) traded his in for a new Corvette! Near my gulf coast zip code, there were several more hits in Louisiana, Florida, and Texas.

Honda knows what they're doing--the typical Accord buyer isn't a performance car person. If we're honest with ourselves, this is more of a practical family vehicle, and eliminating the option reduces complexity and saves money without disappointing hardly anyone. The best performance these days comes from automatics anyway, so the decision was probably easy at a high level. I would have done the same thing.

 

[Mr.2.g0]

The accord is obviously not near as popular as the Type R

Accord is much more popular among the general public. Type R is much more popular among enthusiasts. Either way, I for one went out of my way to find one with a manual and I hate that the manual is disappearing across all platform. I'd love to see some more numbers on this because I'm the only person I've ever known personally with a manual 10th gen Accord. For what its worth I had a manual 8th gen before this and a manual 4th gen prior to that. I've had plenty of other, sportier cars, but something about the Accord keeps me coming back.