At long last, my initial install is complete. I am learning how you can quickly spend a lot of money to achieve the sound you want. This whole project had alot of changes from the initial scope, I updated the initial post with some of the reasons the first scope didnt work out.
Just to list the kit to get it out of the way:
Fronts: Focal ASE-165 Auditor Component Speakers
Rears: Hertz K165 Component Speakers
Amp: Kicker Key 200.4
Sub: Dual Kicker Comp R 12's in a Loaded enclosure
LOC: Kicker KeyLOC
Amp: Kicker CXA 1200.1
How does it all sound? Really good. Could it be better? Yes, but I think the more I tweak with it I'll find something I like. I think at some point I might need to put some real money in to speakers. The kicker key is awesome at how it takes alot of the guess work out of the EQ, The Focal Auditor's have a really sharp tweeter, that left un EQ'd can be a bit annoying, but the Key fixes that. There is a bit of a high noise floor, but that might be my wiring also, Honestly I was just happy it all worked on the first go.
Now some information I wanted to notate in one place because It took me a lot of research to find the answers I was looking for. I'll start with some basics.
If you have the tools, and don't mind drilling holes in your car, It will likely be easier to drill a hole. I did not do this and was able to cut a whole in the grommet and wire both power wires through. (4 gauge wire to the amp in the rear, 10 gauge wire to the Key amp) the Sub Amp has a 100 Amp in line fuse and the key amp has a 20 amp in line fuse. So far no issues with power draw.
In the rear, there is a factory ground behind the driver's side rear seat, under the carpet. I just secured my ground to the same point. Did the same for the ground for the KeyLOC (will get to that in a sec)
For the amp in the front, There is another factory ground right under the center console.
For the sub, I initially had a 150W JBL GT-Basspro12, which just wasn't enough. Had to really push it get anything of worth. I ended up finding a good deal for the Kicker 12's and amp. 1000W total from the subs, and I barely am getting those close their potential.
For signal to the sub: Some things to know about the stock 8 speaker system. The rear speakers do not get a full range signal, and it has a high pass filter that kills most of the bass. So it's best NOT to tap the rears for signal. I tapped the front's from the connector that goes into
the door. (pictured it best I could, Blue wires in the photo are my speaker wires) Was damn near impossible for me to get anything through to the door, so figured it's just easy enough to tap it there. On the drivers side you need the Pink and Grey
, and on the passengers side its Red and Black.
Even after tapping the front speakers, It still has a slight high pass, as the stock honda speakers are half a step above toilet paper. I used a Kicker KeyLOC that restores the missing bass and helps defeat the bass roll off also. Fixes some time delay issues too. It can also be used as a basic RTA device, so its good to have on hand.
Edit: oh and to power the keyloc, ran a line from a fuse tap in spot 45, grouned it at the same point I grounded the amp.
I still need to clean up my wiring a bit, the KeyLoc is just attached with velcro, I'm realizing now that I should probably move it lower so not signal wires are crossing power, same with the power and ground to the amp. All I'll say is it could definitely be worse. for what its worth, theres also a bass knob from the sub amp to the front. Definitely helpful to be able to turn it down if needed.
For Rattles: I did put some sound deadening down on both sides of the rear deck, as well as the plastic it self. But what really helped was shoving some foam strips anywhere I could under the plastic in between the metal. There are some holes in the back around the trunk light that you can feel a space between the plastic and the metal, I just used some weather foam strip's and shoved it up in there. Now I very rarely have any rattles.
Door speakers and rear speakers are pretty self explanatory, the rear is a pain to remove as you have to take apart the whole back to get to it, but it was definitely worth it. Also worth noting that the signal going to the mids and the tweeters is the same, so if you have an aftermarket cross over, seems like your good to just use the mids and leave the factory tweeter signal unused. (thanks ItsOnlyaHonda) Sound deadening in the doors is a must as well, I didn't do much but it's already making a difference.
Getting to the radio was... interesting. Initially I was hesitant to try and take apart the whole dash, but honestly it wasn't that bad. This whole car seemingly is held together by clips so it all snapped off and snapped on pretty effortlessly. The actual connectors under the radio are a bit tight. I had to do some rearranging to get the harness to fit properly, Pretty much every aftermarket cable needs to be as far back as possible. I found a space deep and under the radio to put the key amp. I wanted it to be out of the way but also accessible if needed and here it seems to be, I can pull off the side panel a bit and fish the key amp out if needed.
what's pictured is it when I have it pulled out, If i lift up the trim it fits in a space back up in there.
If you're able to get a Kicker Key amp, When your doing the EQ, things to note, make sure the engine is off and you use a USB key for the test tones, streaming it definitely does not yield proper results. The thing I regret now, is that since I tapped the sub signal after the amp, I probably shouldn't use the crossover function built into the amp, as it will likely then cross it over in the sub signal as well. Just means the whole eq has a bass heavy skew, but that also might just be a kicker thing.
I'm happy with but still tweaking, If I'm ever flush with cash and looking for ways to burn some I might think about adding a better dsp/amp, possibly better components, but for now, its leaps and bounds better then stock, thats for sure.
I'm very thankful for this community for all the necessary information to get this done. The research is a must. I'm happy to answer any questions (at any time in the future also)
Treated the ride to a car wash after I got it all installed