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So guys I was cruising back home from a buddies house around 1:30 am over by Perris Blvd here in Cali with my girl and as I was getting closer to a light there was a sheriff waiting for the light to turn green for him to turn right, Keep in mind I wanted to go home and I’m that person if the light turns yellow and I have time to make it I will go for it and I ran it and made in time doing the speed limit before it turned red. After that the cop and me are now going the same direction I notice the cop going slower then the speed limit on the lane next to me so it put me in front. We got to another light and a random car ends up in front of me and the cop now goes behind me and when the light turns green he stays behind me for like 30 seconds then gets back over to the lane he was in and gets right next to me probably to scope out who’s inside the car and then gets back behind me. When we get to the next light and again the light turns green he finally decides it’s time to turn on his light after harassing me. I pull into a parking lot shut the car off and wait for him to approach my window. Once he gets to my window he already is sketchy as ****, he ask if I have interior lights to turn them on and then ask my girl to get off her phone in a very rude tone and she wasn’t even in any call or nothing just scrolling on her phone through FB so that already annoyed me. I go ahead and ask him what was the reason for pulling me over, he immediately gets attitude with me and says “your exhaust....your exhaust is loud...you know about your exhaust right? And your car is too low” I was like “yeah I installed it myself...so you pull people over because you have nothing better to do and are bored.” Keep in mind I had just picked up my car from the collision place with the stock rims and height of a stock accord because I swap them out during that time, I’m on air suspension too. At that moment I already knew he was going to give me a ticket. He ask for my license, registration, and insurance. My girl gets it out of the glove box for me and I keep it in a little folder that opens up and you have the insurance on the left and registration on the right side very easy visible to read anyways he wouldn’t accept it like that so clearly he was being petty so I went ahead and took it out of the folder. He comes back shortly and ask if I have anything else modified on the car. I told him about just the intake and exhaust that was it. He started to say a penal code and basically was a vehicle inspection under the hood. I pop the hood and open it. He starts to take pictures and then ask me to go have a seat in my car. He comes back 5 minutes later with a ticket hands it to me and says I’m issuing a state ref on this vehicle so you can’t drive it anywhere on public road or freeways/highways unless it’s only to your home, mechanic shop to put the vehicle back to stock, or CHP office for inspection. He wrote me up for these violations and checked the No box for if the violations were correctable when these are all correctable violations. I spoke with another officer that was really chill the next day and told me to get the car back to stock go to CHP get the violation signed off for correctable and go to court and tell the judge that all my violations were signed off and in compliance and should cost me $25 for each violation that written on my ticket instead of the full fine of each one.
27150 (a) cvc exhaust
27156 (b) cvc engine
26708 (a)(1) cvc tint
I just wanted to let the fellow Accords out there with catbacks and upgraded DP/FP in Cali that cops are trying to pop people with any of these kind of mods just beware of your surroundings. My mod list is on my profile if anyone is wondering. I have to return everything back to stock.
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You need CARB stickers for exhaust and intake mods in CA, been like that for years. Take the exhaust and intake off and get it recertified. Yeah he may have been bored and had nothing to do, but you were still using illegal parts on the car for your state. This has been going on in Cali for decades now. So modding those things without CARB stickers that are there to show compliance officers for these exact situations is at your own risk. Need to check and see who offers CARB certified intake and exhaust components and keep those with you.
 

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Don't live in or near Cali but have read/heard that they have some of the strictest emission & performance modification rules/laws. Not to pick sides here because we are only hearing one side of the story but knowing that Cali has those restrictions IMO this statement by @RnS 2.0T didn't help the situation...
” I was like “yeah I installed it myself...so you pull people over because you have nothing better to do and are bored.”
It most cases (unless it's a felony crime) LEO's have the option of warning, ticketing, and/or arresting (depending on circumstance) this may have been one of the times (especially knowing there were illegal parts on the car) to just listen and not give attitude even if it is given. As hard as it is (and I've been known not to do it) sometimes it's better to bite our tongue and say what we feel when those we want to direct it to aren't around.
 

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I’m aware of the Laws here in Cali about performance mods that need to be CARB legal and have proof so they don’t pop me for it. Every drive train related mod I have on is getting put back to stock and only the front driver and passenger side window tints are getting removed. He just caught me on a bad night I guess. Just have to pay to play sometimes. I won’t be putting all my parts back until I get the new turbo, that way my car can lay low for awhile and not cause too much attention. This is my 2nd ticket this year and we are only in February. 🙃
 

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@RnS 2.0T great attitude and response to a bad situation... sucks that it happened and you have to revert back to stock but as you said better to lay low for awhile... especially when you've already gotten 2 tickets this year. 😬

There's an old saying my Dad used to tell me.... "Rubber wheels beat rubber heels... better to be riding than walking". :D
 

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1st, sympathy - that's a real bummer man! I know how much of a PITA that would be to bring your car back to stock! Hope things go smoothly for you for the rest of the situation!

2nd, to piggyback onto what FD said - it could be that you and the deputy met on the wrong day and the wrong time (and no amount of politesse or respect from you would have made a difference) or it could be that you talked yourself into a cite (or additional violations on the cite).

I got quite a few tickets when I was younger. How many? Enough that I had my driver's license number memorized (without ever trying to memorize it) within the first couple of years of driving, lol - I remember getting 4 in a span of 2 weeks one time, 3 moving and 1 equipment. IME, nothing is guaranteed to get you off the hook, not even a brass pass
but you definitely worsen your chances by giving attitude to the LEO.

Even being an over the hill guy these days (and supposedly "should" know better), I'm still dealing with the after effects of not picking and choosing my battles more carefully... :(
 

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@RnS 2.0T great attitude and response to a bad situation... sucks that it happened and you have to revert back to stock but as you said better to lay low for awhile... especially when you've already gotten 2 tickets this year. 😬
Those two tickets might have contributed.

I did a ridealong with a local police officer here a year and a half ago. If there was anyone she was thinking of stopping, unless the act was really egregious and she was certain the stop would happen, she radioed in and had the record run. She was a lot more sympathetic to first-time offenders than to repeat offenders, and a lot more sympathetic to people who treated her with even a little respect than the people that were dirtbags to her.

It was pretty interesting to watch, actually.

I've only been pulled over 3 times in almost 40 years of driving. I treated the officer respectfully (in my opinion) each time. I got tickets the first two times (though the second ticket was a pretty small one and the officer was pretty good about it) and the third one just wanted me to clean my license plate, because he couldn't read it. (He even did that for me.)

Some officers are jerks. But most, in my experience, are pretty good. And my three stops were all in different jurisdictions (Saskatchewan, Montana, North Dakota) so it was interesting to compare them all.
 

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In the area I was pulled over there is a lot of street racing and I was just out trying to go home. I usually give respect when I’m pulled over to avoid getting hit with these kind of violations lol but one of the reasons I gave no respect to this officer was because I felt like I was being harassed and profiled for being one of those racers before I got pulled over. I was doing the speed limit which was 40 and stayed right at and under 1500 rpm so I wouldn’t give him a reason to pull me over for my exhaust but he still thought it was really loud which IMO it really isn’t.
 

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In the area I was pulled over there is a lot of street racing and I was just out trying to go home. I usually give respect when I’m pulled over to avoid getting hit with these kind of violations lol but one of the reasons I gave no respect to this officer was because I felt like I was being harassed and profiled for being one of those racers before I got pulled over. I was doing the speed limit which was 40 and stayed right at and under 1500 rpm so I wouldn’t give him a reason to pull me over for my exhaust but he still thought it was really loud which IMO it really isn’t.
If you have your CARB stuff I would hire a traffic lawyer to take care of it. Here they are like $70 or so plus the fines but not sure the cost there. Will save you the time and hassle of running around and this way if you get pulled over again you can refer them to the lawyer. Absolutely no reason to remove the mods if they are CARB legal. Such bs but unfortunately you have to play the game. Tint ticket is another story.
 

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Since this officer put no on if the violations are correctable on my ticket when these are all correctable violations in the state of California, I’m thinking he wanted me to pay the full fine for each one of them. Luckily for me I know many people in the law biz that know there stuff and was was fortunate enough to find a officer at a gas station the next day lol and told him about my ticket. He assured me that the CHP would be able to sign these violations correctable and give it to the court clerk to prove that I corrected my violations and would only need to pay $25 for each one.
 
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