The detergents mention in the picture are additives.Using the factory recommended viscosity w/o any additives per owner's manual recommendation (see attachment). Hoping for no engine failures but don't want to be denied a warranty claim because it was determined that I had used a non-recommended oil.
I would think the "additives" they are speaking of are above and beyond (additional products) and not what is in the oil itself. More than likely if you looked at the Honda oil it probably contains some detergents.The detergents mention in the picture are additives.
Yes all this advice is correct but was was left out is most important. USE 100% synthetic oil. The manual says you can use conventional oil also but I do not agree, especially with the turbo engines.
NEVER NEVER NEVER substitute a different oil viscosity from the 0W-20 recommended by Honda.So what oil do you use and why?
The difference in viscosity between a 20 and 30 grade is minimal. Most people don't know that 5W-20 lubricants are on the high range of 20, and xW-30 grade lubricants are in the mid to low range of 30. Therefore, the average difference in viscosity at engine operating temperature is minimal.NEVER NEVER NEVER substitute a different oil viscosity from the 0W-20 recommended by Honda.
Engineers have chosen this viscosity, in cold AND warm climates, after hours/years of research under every driving condition.
Also if you want to use an additive...DON'T....the additives are already in the oil Honda recommends.
If you want to have problems ignore Honda and my advice.
Best regards,
Bruce Sharkey
Point noted... Thanks for the info I'll definitely stick with the OEM stuff which is what I have generally done with my DD's.Allicedout,
That was probably OK with the Mustang. Their engines are made to larger tolerances and will support the thicker oil.
This change on a Honda will be disastrous! Especially with a turbo engine. The 0W-20 is proven more capable on high operating temperatures but also gives quick flow protection during cold startups where most wear always happens.
STAY WITH WHAT HONDA RECOMMENDS!! Full synthetic 0W-20.
I have trouble with the water like viscosity of 0w20 oil. I previously owed a 2011 Mustang GT and it took 5w20. from my understanding the first number is the cold weight and the second number is the weight once the oil is hot. Truth be told both my 2011 and my previous to that 2005 Mustang experienced a lot of blow by when starting up the car. After listening to my mechanic we went to a 10w30 as it was summer driven only and it totally eliminated the blow by with no effects. The car was later boosted to 600rwhp with no adverse effects. I'm skeptical on the 0w20 as I've read manufacturers use it to achieve good gas mileage ratings as it creates less resistance in the motor. I'll be doing a little more research but will more then likely be going to a 30 weight oil year round.
Yes Fired00d,Using the factory recommended viscosity w/o any additives per owner's manual recommendation (see attachment). Hoping for no engine failures but don't want to be denied a warranty claim because it was determined that I had used a non-recommended oil.
You have Honda hugger guys like this on every forum who don't really know what they're talking about with the usual blather about "tighter tolerances, etc - it's all bs - the tolerances are basically the same as previous Accords. 5W-30 is perfectly fine in these engines, it's what I run, the super light oils are a concession for fuel economy, not ultimate longevity of the engine. How many older Accords are there with 300k+ miles on the clock running 5W-30 and 10W-30? Many! End of argument! Remember all turbo engines have some fuel dilution (get your oil analyzed at oilanalyzers - you will see it) and thin out of grade very quickly. Blowby also seems to be worse with the ultra thin oils (unless you're running a catch can, you won't know)STAY WITH WHAT HONDA RECOMMENDS!! Full synthetic 0W-20.
Not a "Honda Hugger" myself (as I purchase what I like at the time of purchase... have owned many different brands), and not to speak for @[email protected]. However I do know that manufacturers will do anything they can to deny warranty... if it were found out that a non-recommended viscosity of oil was used then it could be a reason to deny any/all warranty(ies) JMHO. As you mentioned Honda doesn't make their oil and because they don't (and they don't give it to us free of charge) we aren't obligated to use "Honda" branded oil, however IMO we need to use the same viscosity of oil =/> than the manufacturers branded oil to preserve (if that is what is wanted) the warranty.You have Honda hugger guys like this on every forum who don't really know what they're talking about with the usual blather about "tighter tolerances, etc - it's all bs - the tolerances are basically the same as previous Accords. 5W-30 is perfectly fine in these engines, it's what I run, the super light oils are a concession for fuel economy, not ultimate longevity of the engine. How many older Accords are there with 300k+ miles on the clock running 5W-30 and 10W-30? Many! End of argument! Remember all turbo engines have some fuel dilution (get your oil analyzed at oilanalyzers - you will see it) and thin out of grade very quickly. Blowby also seems to be worse with the ultra thin oils (unless you're running a catch can, you won't know)
Also, Honda does not manufacture oil! It's just rebadged. Amsoil Signature, Mobil 1 EP, Castrol Syn EP - all excellent